In topic: "JHUTD: Jade Harley Universal Discussion Thread"

Thursday, August 7th, 2025, 8:15 AMabout 1 month ago

I really like Jade; she was always my favorite out of the Beta kids just because I thought her story from the comic was fascinating. She starts off as a mysterious girl character who seems to know everything, but then, when the plot starts to kick in, she is thrust into the game without any of the old tools she used to have to help other people. She has always been a very caring and empathetic person who wants what's best for other people, even if she has to put herself in serious harm's way to do so. I feel like the main issue I have with the way current Jade is written is that she lacks any of the empathy and emotional care that the Comic Jade had for her friends and family.


Comic Jade stayed on a burning, crumbling Moon because she wanted to see John wake up on Prospit and jumped out of a destroyed tower just to slap him awake at the cost of her own dream life. Comic Jade god-tiered and got everyone on a long journey through space just so they could have that second chance and not die a horrible death. Comic Jade berates and yells at a flanderized cowardly version of herself because what she fears most is becoming something like THAT or having other people view her in that way.


Because of her actions and just the general way she was written in the comic, the way she is written in the Epilogues and Beyond Canon (which do go hand in hand because Jade is the one character who unfortunately is the same in each story) feels like the writers hated her for some reason when they wrote her that way because they intentionally stripped away the main tenets of her personality just to make her a huge weirdo. And this is not to say that Jade didn't have issues in the Comic or whatever, I'm not saying Jade is perfect...but her issues in the Epilogues and Beyond Canon were never THOSE issues. It feels like the writers hastily tacked on issues she never had and then used her abandonment problems as a weak excuse to have them, even if she's just never had them before at all.


Yes, it is true that Jade has some trouble socializing with other people because she has lived alone for most of her life and has been largely isolated from society, having spent her time on a secluded island with only her Grandfather's stuffed body and a Dog for company. Yes, it is also true that Jade had issues with moving on from her ex-boyfriend, who was also a doomed, dead timeline version of her best friend.


It is also true that Jade cares for her friends and does the most and has a lot of empathy for them to the point of self-sacrifice, and has a serious fear of one day not being there for them when they need her most or being too much of a stick in the mud to get things done. She has serious impostor syndrome IMO because she accomplishes so much in the comic and then when things go awry because of things out of her control she starts to doubt everything about herself. So if she has this much care and empathy for other people, why did they write her as a boundary-crossing sexual harasser who couldn't care for anyone's perspective but her own? Why did they have her and Rose go behind Kanaya's back and have a baby the "real" way? Why even bring up that it's probably because it was another way of getting to have a family with Dave or some shit lol? None of these actions make sense if Jade has empathy for her friends or cares for them lol, you'd have to strip that entirely away because nobody who actually gave a damn about their friends like that would do this T_T And so many of her horrid actions are just tied to these singular issues that they ignore the problems she DID have, and so it's like she's an entirely new character who isn't really Jade.


I also just don't like that they make her relationship with Davesprite this weird core part of her character, like we never actually saw that relationship, mind you, it happened when she was 16 years old, and she's a grown woman now. She never dated the "real" Dave, I'd think it would be interesting if there had been an arc where maybe she does ask Dave out to see if she even really liked Dave, but that is not the arc we got and it's not even close to how they wrote her in either story. An arc like that would at least make some sense for Jade, and it would be pretty cool T_T


So I totally get what people mean when they say that it feels like the "writers hate Jade" because they really did just sort of give her problems she wouldn't have canonically. Everyone else got problems that stem from the comic but not Jade.

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