@skitis

oh yeah i didnt mean nazis shouldnt be mocked, i specifically tried phrasing it differently than "nazi as punchline" bc i meant jokes where the punchline is the cruelty, or the "its just a joke" type

for me its probably a bit of a mix of various exhaustions as well bc its extremely common and... ngl disheartening how often media has characters or factions or whatever who are ""german"" and its always nazis

and it is a certain kind of fucked up when you grow up with that conflation
(i dont want to imply that its as fucked up as the actual history of the Nazi-Reich, please dont read this in bad faith)

but it really does fuck with you when part of your identity (here national) is constantly conflated with these horrors, especially when you are part of a group that was (attempted to be) eradicated during them

idk i fear i have gotten sidetracked with this now and i dont want to distract from the original topic
bc like this overall is a bigger topic than my personal extension of it

i agree that in internet spaces (and especially wester internet spaces) where the actual dogwhistling is unfortunately more common it is sensible to think about different phrasing possibilities to avoid them
(the tainting of anything the extreme right adopts and if one automatically should drop those things or if that is seen as conceding ground to them is, while related, probably a different topic, and one that i do not feel equipped to make definite statements on)