Thinking about this some more and there's also so much potential with the strict separation between children left on Alternia and then adults elsewhere after ascending. No one gets to talk to actual adults and realize it's just normal. All they get is trickled down propaganda... I also really love your point of Alternia as an inversion of conservative suburban ideal into a new conservative evil. It also warps nuclear family structures so wonderfully - children basically getting raised by the family dog LMAO.

There's also so much sexual violence that's built into the system, with drone enforcement of entire population being forced to reproduce at beginning of "adulthood" just so most of them can die in a cave and then also kill each other for fun. Basically requiring absurd and arbitrary sexual performance as a measure of fitness. Especially since anytime any details about Troll Sex does get brought up its some crazy shit that sounds terrible, or the vomiting (dysphoria..........). The quadrants all being ways to basically pathologize any type of general complex emotion one could feel for another (enforced poly society...). It's all just about forcing and enforcing stupid bullshit that everyone hates. Except Gamzee. The evil clown being the 'normative' figure of society is so fucking funny.

I personally find it difficult to gaf about Beforus but I wonder then if that would then be an explicitly trans-positive society? And then with the Scratch, with Doc Scratch's interference as a patriarchal overlord, grooming the development of Alternia to deliberately make it transphobic... make every troll dysphoric.... make their pet/parent misgender them..... truly the most prolific pedophile in history.