@autumn My post was more about how the reason the relationships for gay men in Homestuck are portrayed in this way is because of the prevalent Fujoshi culture in fandom spaces, and how sometimes I think the narrative spends more time treating these relationships as unserious and silly because they are too busy making fun of the fans who wanted to see these ships become canon in the first place. Homestuck spends a lot of time fleshing out its female characters and their relationships to a degree that I have to say is just treated with more care than a few of the other ships. And this is not to, like, compare them or whatever or accuse the Homestuck team of being man haters or something lol, I am very well aware of how fandom is so male-oriented and how fandom will prioritize men over women to a strange, and comical degree.

I think this is part of the larger issue, which is just that these relationships are kind of pushed to the side, and we just don't really see a lot of them in the main story. And when we do see it in the main story, it is mired in mockery of an internet culture that I don't actually think many modern Homestucks are even really a part of. I am not saying that Homestuck should become the Davekat show either or whatever lol, but that if we are going to get Davekat and DirkJake moments in the future, they could at least drop this part of the narrative at least. The joke is pretty tired, and for what it's worth, I think the way Davekat is portrayed in Meat is really good. I liked that they had the conversation in the washroom; that was nice. And really, I only brought this up because the comic itself does this specific commentary with these specific ships, there was that whole scene with Caliborn learning to draw anime, lol.

I didn't just bring up Yaoi for no reason. But I can definitely understand how something like this could put actual gay men off from kind of liking the ships because if every time you got to see them together it was just content that's not really geared towards you, or it's jokes made about a community you might not even be a part of, that can be frustrating and at times kind of offensive. I think there is a way for Homestuck to have good representation for both lesbian/sapphic relationships and gay male relationships without bogging one or the other down with all this commentary on fandom. But that is just my opinion.