How accurate do you think your own sensory and cognitive portrait of the world is?

pretty accurate i would say

Generally speaking accurate often skewed by limited information or emotional irregularity, then re-tempered by critical thinking and dialectical analysis

Hey! This topic is inoffensive and we don't have the capability to move topics yet I won't, but this would count as not MSPA/FRAF related so topics like this would go in the off topic category: Asshole Factory. Probably the Rumpus Room forum.

I am psychotic, so it really depends! This isn't a satisfying answer, so I will give my lunches

1. Little Caesar's Hot n Ready Pizza

2. Street/Food Truck tacos

3. Ramen

4. Deli meat sandwich

5. PB&J

6. Taco Bell Cravings Box with a Baja Blast

7. Good Leftovers of a previous dinner

8. Enough of a snack to become a meal amount of food

9. A bowl of cereal

10. Gas station hot dog with fountain drink

@kech - Thank you for the heads up! I think my brain just thought, "oh, this is a general topic of discussion, i will put it in general discussion." Will be mindful of this in the future!

@Raffy - Honestly, I mean, this is a great list of lunches, leftovers are amazing, but I think that's a good answer too. You are aware of things that affect you cognitively and how this may bias your perception of reality. It may not be something you can control, but you at least have that baseline of self-knowledge.

@Sylvia - So true. Could stuff even BE any more dialectical??

i have super mega dissociation issues so my BASE ASSUMPTION is that im perceiving things a little funkier than they really are! i tried lexapro for anxiety a while ago and stopped because it was causing me minor hallucinations. that was a crazy time. i heard ralsei's voice coming out of my dishwasher. the pikmin on my lock screen blinked at me. i already deal with a hazy, foggy view of the world so that had to stop LOLL. im off it now and im just dealing with my normal dissociation HAHA. the anxiety causes the dissociation, though, so my hope is that if i find a medication that works it will make the fog go away and i can just be present in the world as it is, and not so much forced to be in my own brain worlds all the time. often i cannot tell the difference between them, or between a dream and a real day, so it's kinda sucky. you get used to it, though.

top ten most delicious lunches
- leftovers from the previous nights dinner
- homecooked meal by a loved one
- kraft mac n cheese
- big outing with friends out at a restaurant where youre being a bit too loud but its okay cuz youre having fun
- doordashed garbage food because dammit i need a treat
- pizza
- pizza
- burger
- burger
- BLT made by my girlfriend

I'm reading "An Immense World" by Ed Jong right now, which is all about animal senses and their "Umwelt," or the world it is possible for them to percieve. Yeah, we humans are pretty solid all-rounders, but so many animals can sense stuff we can't. Like, we don't have ultrasonic sonar with sub-milimeter precision, tetrachromatic vision that can see a whole extra dimension of colours, God-tier scent-following skills, the ability to talk to each other by vibrating the ground, and a dozen other things. Other end of the scale, many animals percieve much less - like ticks, which can detect the smell, taste and warmth of passing mammals but not much else. Even most fellow mammals see a different world to us - instead of our forwards vision with good depth perception, cows see a 360 degree panorama with a "focal point" that stretches all around the horizon.

i think that ultimately, try as any living being might, we will never have the full picture. and it's certainly something that's frustrated me for most of my life, but i think ive come closer to a sort of peace with the fact that i'll never have all the pieces. at the very least, im confident that i am trying to perceive the world in its most "true" state it offers me, and confident that im open to when the world changes. ill never know definitely if something is a truth or a lie, but im happy to have the choice in believing either perception.

i originally had a much longer comment typed cus i like to think about things like this, but it felt like it got kinda off topic lmao

In a practical sense, I am 100% confident in my perception of the wworld. I push on it and it pushes on me exactly the same wway ever time. I don't think this actually means anything in the grand scheme, though. I could be flailing around, my inputs to the wworld not matching it's outputs at all, and I wwould have no wway of knowwing. In fact, I don't think there is a good wway of measuring this sort of thing at all.

A question like this (provided I've interpreted it correctly. Language is one of those departments wwhere I'm near 0% confident in my perceptions...) tortured me for a long time as a young wwoman. It wwent something like this: Howw could you prove that you and another person see a color the same wway?

The obvious and unsatisfying answwer is that you can't, since all references to any given color are rel8ve. I deper8ly wwanted this to not be the case. I wwould think for hours about howw I could prove it. If only I could dip into someone else's body for a moment and see the wworld through their eyes, then I could simply look at a reference object and see!

I've since come to terms wwith it in the same one that one comes to terms wwith an old car that is on the verge of breaking dowwn. Sure, there's stuff you cant really figure out going on under the hood, but as long as it turns on in the morning and turns off in your drivewway at night, wwho cares?


either wway, thanks for the thread, cool premise

As confident as one can be knowing you brain lies literally all the time. It even has this thing it does where it pretends to turn off but it's still running all night. It's just me it turns off. Real sneaky.

Hell no! I have lapses of memory all the fucking time, I also have genuine hallucinations (mostly at night but I have audio hallucinations randomly) so I have to constantly question myself on reality which is. Fun! (not really but it's a good exercise in dealing with bullshit) I'm also a compulsive liar so that is not only a struggle every day, it sharpens by bullshit meter to a point that it can be TOO sensitive lmfao. All that + autism means I always gotta quadruple guess myself before I start making a decision on things.

i'm working on my own reality, it's what i really want. so it really doesn't matter if my perception of the shared reality is true or not, my reality alone is what concerns me.

I don't know that I believe that reality is something that means anything outside of your perception. There's common thought experiments like the Boltzmann brain which kind of get at what I'm saying, but my point is that all you can rely on for what reality means is based entirely within your perception, so why should anything other than that perception matter? As for how that picture of reality has existed for me personally, it has started to feel a lot more cohesive and understandable over time. Things actually feel like they go together in a way with consistent internal logic and cause and effect operates in a way I can follow, which has not always been the case for me.

something I think about is that the world itself is very alien. the colors we perceive are dependent on our eyes and different creatures see entirely different things, and there is no true platonic existence out there. or if there is one we can’t understand it

I think I understand the majority and the minority that suffer in the world. I know the ins-and-outs. The mountains and the steppes. I know all sorts of people who are old and young, rich and poor, tall and short. I can comfortably say that I understand most. The concepts that rule the world and with those residing in it. But, what I cannot understand is that, how the outside is most of the time really hot as fuck so I keep melting like I'm a fresh bowl of ice-cream.

it's even worse when you're a liar like yours truly and have very real barriers to effective communication in cases i try to describe what i'm feeling/experiencing. i can't really translate qualia too well, because it's like a preverbal segment of reality and words/concepts are superimposed on top of experiences

@tavroscrocker Good news: humans can learn echolocation! And transhumanists who get a magnetic implant can reportedly learn to "map out" nearby magnetic fields. A friend of a friend had to get theirs removed due to infection and it was very distressing, like a part of them was taken :(

@1ant: Very rarely, I've been able to fall asleep while maintaining my lucidity, so I never feel any discontinuity. Of course, if I ever manage to stay asleep for more than a few minutes in that state, my brain would eventually shift to another dream because of REM cycles, so that doesn't really solve the problem... It's still one of the WILDest things I've ever experienced :)

I think it's accurate enough to function.
The issue is, perception is inherently limited and the brain has to run in the background in order to fill in the gaps, which ultimately makes things a little fucky.
However, in my case, I don't think I have any particularly big disconnect from reality except when I'm tired.
(However my memory is another issue entirely.)