Selene's Insane Attempt At Classpecting The New Characters Before We Even Know Their Names

my guess is that TC is the time or possibly space player since they seem to be the one motivating play and time/space is the most important aspect pairing. I think yiffys going to be the rage player but that's mostly just because so many of her actions have been motivated by anger thus far, which is pretty literal. i agree that ly'lac's probably the doom player - her thing about being prophesied to bring the end times is the big clue, but i also feel like her strife specibus and "black thumb" also support that idea, since bombs are a countdown to inevitable destruction and she "dooms" all her plants. if vrissy wasnt the most likely light player id say AA is light just because she talks so fucking much.

re: vampiricritical

I wasn't really thinking about the Earth C kids w/ this tbh, but if I had to guess I'd say:

Vrissy -- Witch of Mind

Tavvy -- Heir of Doom

Harry -- Prince of Space

Yiffy -- Thief of Time

Vrissy is an obvious Light pick, but I think it would actually be more interesting for the story for her to not be a Light player, and instead be something else. The dynamic between Vrissy and Vriska has always interested me, and I'd be absolutely fascinated to see how Vriska reacts to her alt-self (so to speak) having a completely different class and aspect, not to mention how Vrissy would feel about once again failing to follow in Vriska's footsteps. It would be a real test both of Vriska's ego and of Vrissy's sense of identity. Also yadda yadda ceruleanblood mind control witch of mind connection.

Tavvy I feel is an absolute lock to be an Heir of some sort, what with his quiet demeanor and the fact that he's literally an heir. With regards to aspect I could really go with anything, but Doom is by far and away the most underexplored in Homestuck proper, so that's my pick. He's also got a pretty big anxiety disorder going on and I think it would be hilarious for him to freak out over the fact that he's an Heir of Doom specifically.

Harry's a real wildcard here. I really have no idea what to make of him. You could convince me of almost any class or aspect, but I picked Prince of Space simply because it sounds the most interesting. What would it mean to destroy space itself, or use space itself to destroy? I feel like Harry would love the idea of being a Prince of Space. Him being a Prince, one of the more active classes, would also be a rather stark contrast to his mother and father, who are both members of passive classes. It doesn't super-match with his current character, but I have a feeling that's where his arc is going. I also just think it would be valuable for narrative purposes to have a Prince who isn't a "bad guy", since the only ones we know of are kind of ... morally questionable. [+ I think he would totally dig the God Tier Prince Outfit]

Yiffy is another wildcard to me. Possibly even moreso than Harry. We really don't know much at all about her, other than that she's a total brat. So, going off of that, I think Thief is the most obvious class for her. With regards to aspect, I'm kind of at a loss. Time sounds cool to me, especially in combination with the Thief class. I'd be interested to see how that works.

you make good points about vrissy not being a light player. she could also be heart aspect since it deals with iterations of the self so much?

i think theyre going to be the same session and therefore locked out of aspect repeats, so i disagree about tavvy being doom, especially since i think lylac is going to be the fix to the lack of doom focus. he could be heir of hope, as both a continuation of his fathers aspect and a way to signify an arc relating to coming into inner strength? its also a very intimidating title to live up to, albeit in a different way than doom.

i also have genuinely no idea about harry yet. we havent seen all that much of him with his facade down. i dont think hed be a prince just because their role seems to be inherently villainous, but i dont have any better suggestions.

i definitely think yiffy will be an active troublemaker class. thiefs most likely but she could also be a prince, which would be fascinating for similar reasons to vrissy not being a light player, since its been stated to be a male exclusive class

if we're classpect theorizing about the new kiddos:

at first when we only knew the omegas i assumed they had to be thief/bard/mage/sylph of doom/rage/blood/mind, the missing aspects of the humans. Yiffy would be the most dramatic irony as a sylph of blood, the rosejade adultery baby having both kanaya and karkat classpects plus id love to find out What A Sylph Is, we've had both areana and kanaya and its still "a witch but more magical" which doesn't mean anything. Tavvy is the XXX of rage, he deserves to go ape shit. Harry is the bard of XXX bc of his theatre shakespeare shit, we need a bard who is kinda boring to see what else it can do. And vrissy is the thief of mind, bc cosmic vrisrezi synergy. This would make tavvy mage and harry doom, but i dont feel that strongly about either.

But now we have 6 new friends with 6 potential classpects and that makes things Complex. Either seer/prince of light/heart are out bc dirk & rose, or thief/heir of light/breath bc of june & vriska, or we lose the cherubs but that doesnt narrow down the classes so ill ignore that option.

So if we've got all 12 classpects, which one would be the most interesting? We already know how thieves and rogues work, we know seers and princes, and we know how pages work. We have a pretty good idea how knights work, but the other 6 classes are vague. Classpect enjoyers have written excellent meta on how the others work in canon and what we can extrapolate from that, but for the casual reader those classes need more clarification.

Theres this theory over on tumblr that deltritus only has two genders: nymphs and satyrs, or Catholic schoolgirls and frat boys. Assuming that's true, the most interesting nymph classes would be sylph, witch and maid, because those classes are the Girl Classes (hs2 and beyond canon are saying interesting things about gender & transness and i trust them to handle this in an interesting way) and we really need to know More on what makes them tick. (And yiffy the sylph can bond about being boarding schooled yes i Am convinced about sylph of blood yiffy). For the frat boys, we could have heir page and something. Knight maybe, mage possibly, depending if they're doing it british style or yankways. (Also if we're actually getting frat boy satyrs ill write a fraternity 101, we need to mock them Accurately and i know way too much about frat culture & hazing & organization)

That said, i don't have many specific guesses for the deltritus characters. Im gonna be a hipster and say ly'lac is time not doom, time bombs are a thing and her quirck is constantly ticking down, she likes ancient weapons (Dave liked taxidermy and aradia liked archaeology) and dirk rose and terezi all really like dave and would have a common interest in The New Time Kid. But i don't have many thoughts about AA or the others, except that I really Really want a discord only satyr to be a Waste of Space

All interesting takes I must say. I admit my own insights and thought as to the Omega Kid Team are pretty biased by metatextual information suggesting the omega kids have classpects "never seen before" and the clarification on that implying they have aspects we have not seen a "Human team" have. Which narrows it down to four.

By no means is that conclusive but it's always been a bit odd how well they line up to me, to wit:

Yiffy: I think most people read them as a rage player for good reason, even if that's, again, not hard locked in for any specific reason. However, they have been doing a rage player's job very well thus far. Bringing Kanaya to full fury based on Rose's actions and, I imagine, resulting in a positive confrontation about Rose's mental state for years, Tavvy being driven to battle and then rejecting his emotionally abusive mother, Dirk also seems perturbed and upset by the concept of Yiffy and she's even kicked off -or so we assume- a fight with Vrissy. Rage is not just anger but passion and emotional drive and that's a great state for her to be.

Harry: Always the tricky one to classpect given their "Normal Human Dude" roll...But I think there's enough there to move a chip towards blood for them. Much as HSBC has put a good shoulder behind blood player karkat having the interpersonal empathy to Fix Some Problems with people (or at least in Candy) I think Harry's clear behaviour of being the mediator and calming (attempted or otherewise) force that gets dragged around by histrionic teens qualifies. Blood and it's portfolio is also what they're often concerned with given their relationship with their biological father and the broader omega team. If you count being a troll as being related enough to count as "Blood related" to a troll (or at least the grand matriarch) Harry is related by blood or strict legal enjoiners to all the other omegas .

Tavvy: Reads as doom from the jump to me and still does. He's a detail oriented born to be a cog in the machine type that was crushed by the same machine and now reads as the type to point out he found a loophole in the contract allowing him to legally spray paint a swear word on someone's living room walls. Malicious Compliance is how the machine really breaks and Tavvy will do it. This mostly works if he's a destroyer class, which is something I'll get too shortly.

Vrissy: Light makes sense as the immediate assumption...But Vrissy is not technically a Serket. She's a Maryam-Lalonde. I'd even go so far as to say she's less Vriska's clone and more like her twin sister in terms of implied repetition of themes and interests. Which we don't actually know much about. Vrissy's room was never seen, nor was her home and living conditions disclosed to the same level the others were. That will probably help us classpect her alot better when we get around to it. For the time being...I've got to say Mind feels spot on for her. Related in themes to Light, it's something she's displayed and if I might be so bold, mind always seemed like what happens when you fuse light and space. It's the physical calculus and intuition from facts around rather than esoterica like fortune and knowledge as a concept. She's also been shown using her mind powers and I recall Vriska as much as says she can do things that Vriska can't. Given I've also imagined her arc is "not being vriska, being Vrissy" that washes well.

As for the deltas:
Given the omegas are probably not a viable team given alt-callie's plan is to spike the universe turn and pour amber over "Homestuck" and indeed, there are allusions to the alpha team all through their concepts I most certainly agree that The Delta Team is probably a viable one with a space/time player combo.

Who that is is TRICKY though given their are alot of overlapping metatextual clues.

Ly'lac being a bad gardener could allude to a page of space, or a destroyer class...But might just as easily be more theming that the nymphs are Rosebot's attempt at a symbolic union of her and Kanaya. Something that might continue. Her associations with bombs and timing points to do though. Let alone her epitaph being a synonym for "Last Clap". Both doomy.

But then that'd put doubles into a combined team that has only ten members... Not that it hasn't happened before. We've doubled up on light, time and space before after all with active players .

AA is a bit more...Obvious. Called an oracle, seemingly obsessed with prophesy being enacted. Very insistent on things happening by certain times or "The time is right" stuff. While also being maroon and having Aradia's tag. Interesting there given the only other time players Rose knows are dave and caliborn. Of course it's more probable the finer details are Terezi's doing. But I think it's safe to say AA being a time player is sensical. Maybe even a light player too.

CC is probably the friend that sends Ly'lac the flowers, has green text and from the very brief look into her text colour and possible quirk and typing style. She reads, to me at least, like a bit of blend of feferi and roxy, both of whom have associations to Rose specifically at least, with life and providence. For a constructed SHUSK team that likely carries over to space given the space player is sort of the "Parent" of the universe through the frog breeding. They'd also carry over the allusion to fabrics and the cloisetered element from kanaya.

This would also park the time/space team on the nymph side . Either intentionally from Dirk and Rosebot or Terezi did something...Interesting and sidelined dirk's species just for the big funny.

TC....Also reads as space fairly well with their interest in technology, and the CHA.OS thing. They're very chill though and their handle does alude to "Vibrating or buzzing energy". Very interesting that. Light player maybe?

No clue on the others beyond AT seeming to be a mod and probably has a bit of karkat in them if I can reach back and recall Karkat's early team leader days.

CT hmmm. The name suggests a bit of a lunk and/or possible jock sorta type. But that might be aspirational. In general the satyrs seem to present quite masculine an given Rosebot's team are all female, it's an obvious matriarchal or at least female leaning society and there's ALOT of her poured into them we generally can assume the satyrs are similar, with perhaps some Jake strewn about the way Kanaya is for the nymphs. A nathan drake/indiana jones style action scientist? Who is to know there.

Regarding classes: It's also happenstance that we're missing four CLASSES unseen on a majority human team. Bard, thief, sylph and mage. It's all fitting things onto one another and classes are really very variable but they also happen to fit the omegas pretty well in a few configurations.

Mage of Rage (Which also sounds like a punk band or punk band leader epitaph) Yiffy is pretty good. She's used her knowledge of passion, people's motivation and what gets under their skin well so far and indeed, caused it by her very being or minor activities from jade to kanaya to Vrissy to Jane and the entire crocker corp.
Thief of Mind Vrissy melds her aspect with her mentor/gene mother's class and techniques suggesting a synthesis of her various guardians, mentors and teachers in her mothers and Vriska. It also blends Scourge Sisters in a new and fun way
Bard of Doom Tavvy does similar. His hated uncle's methods as a joke on those that stymied and raised them at once, while using the mechanics of their detail orientated but ever more wildly executed skills and insights to mess the works up all over (We do know tavvy is very well featured in the upcoming material and they have alot of skills the others lack. I'd read that as doom's association with rules and mechanics and their march to the end of things). Of course this does also suggest Tavvy might be having a rough go of the session...But then he already has.
This leaves us with Sylph of Blood Harry. And you know what? If any character in HSBC would be "Oh that's cool I'm down" about finally testing the "the classes are not gendered calliope just assumed that" statement it's him. One who repairs and fixes blood/relationships/passions also sums up their "given the magical power of empathy and moderated, reasonable emotional responses" status as The Egbert and all.

I also postulate you can swap Harry and Vrissy's classes fairly easily. "Repairing rage" can be construed as one that evokes where it should be to a positive end. Inflaming passions where they were not and using rage, passion and emotional effort to burn away misconceptions, stagnation and so on. Very Punk. (and also a very on point interpretation of the candy rosemary situation. Kanaya can't possibly have not noticed a thing for 15 years without some "Its Fine I Am Sure" rose coloured glasses.). Which leaves mage of blood Harry. Who as a theatre kid would be in the business of knowing characters, motivations, tropes and ways to get through to people using their acting skills or past characters and stage direction. That does feel like the mage of blood's power set.

An addendum: as of posting (after the second Part 2 update before the third one) I do imagine the next update will probably feature something from AA as that's where it's logically been going. At the very least we might learn their name and epitaph or see their room reveal which usually has a good bit of classpect gold there.