the HICU article is fake and gay

"his criticisms towards FRAF as "hussie has full control over who gets to be affiliated" is especially wild to me,"

This bit is not true, while we share the list with the HICU for feedback (voluntarily, I am not required by my license to do so and I was never asked to, I do it because we're two teams heading up Homestuck projects and we value their input) we do not put the list past Andrew for approval. I clarified this to Gio beforehand, and I do not believe they claimed otherwise outside of implying that we share the list because of social pressure (which is not true, and I explicitly clarified as such) and never explicitly stated that Andrew is not consulted on our nominations despite me explicitly stating this to them.

thank you, i did stumble onto that piece onto that piece of info only after making the post. it's good to know and thank you for correcting me, my point still stands in the sense that even if hussie was involved in the process of approving of FRAF works i honestly wouldn't bat an eye and it just seems like fairly normal and reasonable practice if that did happen.

Gio is very good at bullshitting he would have done great in 10th grade english. I stopped reading the blog post cause all most of it is, is just bloat of him finding a million different ways to say "Hussie is a manipulator" without any evidence, which is crazy cause he does have "Evidence" Or at least personal accounts of hussie being a shithead, so the only reason to go on the way he does is to extend the post for some reason it's insane

If the part of the blogpost on FRAF is outright wrong, then that's a very bad outlook.

I'm curious, though, the SAHcon organizing team shuffle did still happen and was publicly documented. Was there another reason (than the one Gio is putting forward) given, then? (I only learned of this earlier today, so yeah.)

RE: SAHcon

i personally do not know pretty much anything about that situation, and i'm not commenting on it, but just the way it was used as "evidence" in the article. what the article does is cite the situation, establish exactly two facts on the timeline: partnership with HICU, and after a member of con staff being forced out of the con. the evidence the article specifically cites says "i don't know what exactly happened, i can make guesses, i do not have the full story". and this somehow turns into "andrew hussie forced a member of staff to leave the con", which is a huge leap to just make, and seems like gio just projecting pre-existing biases and making extrapolations based on the narrative he wants to tell.

Tbh the only thing I really dislike about this is just Hussie using legal action the Anne Rice way to get rid of the UHC. Everything else is just personal attacks that have no real grounds or merit and just sound like the person writing doesn't like Hussie all that much lol. Some people (namely a few nutjobs on the Homestuck subreddit) seem to think this even means that Beyond Canon was entirely written by Hussie this whole time like some big dumb plot twist.

This is real life, not Homestuck. There are no plot twists lol. Hussie is just in charge of some things because he literally owns Homestuck, and gets to decide who is involved with what. The only thing I am critical of is the legal handling of all this, again I reiterate that this is very Anne Rice behavior and I do not agree with it lol

@lizardanya: the thing is that Gio doesn't wildly use this argument for anything that'd match these criteria. For example, Austinado recently stepped down as project director from DCRC (as can currently be read at https://www.deconreconstruction.com/ , annoying that their news items don't have separate links) some time after starting some kind of partnership with HICU. But I don't think Austinado has been bullied away, considering he's active on this very website. Gio didn't talk about this at all, but if they would, it would be blatantly false. Hence, I don't suspect Gio of aimlessly throwing things on the wall to see what sticks.

i just don't think that just because he doesn't cite every possible bad faith argument that somehow makes him more reliable. ideally he should have zero bad faith arguments in his articles, right?

again, my problem isn't even with the fact that he's necessarily making deductions and assumptions, it's the way he presents these very definitive statements with the evidence not being solid enough to back it up.

@inversionpinchoff
.. gio literally did talk about this? and directly insinuate that austinado may have been asked to step down as well?

which had to be.. directly refuted by austinado because it was just conjecture.

RE: anything about "shutting down" the UHC.

it literally has not happened, it is still up and available, the only thing that HAS occurred on that front is gio altering the website for his version of the thing to be all grayed out and edgy and empty, and saying he's not going to continue working on it. As of right now, the UHC is perfectly downloadable off of github, including the fork at homestuck.github.io which is presently linked in a pinned post in the homestuck subforum of this very website.

that's the thing that gets me !! so many people are talking about the situation like "you literally cannot download UHC anymore" which is NOT true, and is probably perpetuated by the fact that gio framed it as "UHC is dead and taken down completely". everything combined it just seems like he deliberately framed it all as catastrophically as possible to just make everyone panic and stir up controversy.

As someone mostly detached from HOMESTUCK, I will say... This whole situation does, indeed, Stink. Miles made so many good points in their response and it really does look like, from what I've seen and heard, that Gio isn't exactly trustworthy. It seems to be a whole lot of yelling and screaming, and at the end, it may turn out that absolutely nothing happened. Just.. At all.