The most civil June Discussion ever

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Saturday, August 2nd, 2025, 10:50 PM4 months ago

I am aware that many people get generally very transphobic when talking the subject of June and I would like to avoid that completely.


I believe that gender in Homestuck is an extremely complex concept and I hope that the HSBC team can express it in a way that works well within the story. I wanna go into the topic of June specifically to see what other people think.

What I want to get into is how transitioning would look like and be meaningful to the story. What I mean by "how it would look like" is why would John transition from male to female when they took part in the creation of a society where the only difference between male and female is at most pronouns. How I see it Gender in Homestuck doesn't at all have the same perceived limitation as in real life. I honestly believe that Homestuck could be a good example of postgenderism where gender is an arbitrary and unnecessary limitation. I hope June can be used to explore themes of masculinity and femininely with what exactly decides what they look like and mean.


My main concern is that the introduction of June will completely change everything about John's character just to complete the toblerone joke and not tell a good story as well. I'm concerned about how the Epilogues and HS^2 laid a foundation of mystery, mischaracterizations and misunderstandings that HSBC now has to do damage control for and still tell their story. I think they are doing a pretty good job but their foundation is not good and I don't know if it will hold up nicely for the story and themes they try to tell.

I'm posting this to generally see what others think.

Cyan Blaze
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