Thiughts abt Prospit/Derse players?

i wrote some bullshit on lunar sway i wanna share here. share your thoughts in your replies, i wanted this to be more like a forum to discuss abt prospit/derse

mostly focused it on the child-mind and how it affects a person further in their life. homestuck is about some kids and not some adults, in the end.

Prospitians are more focused in keeping positive appearances at all costs and mostly see negative emotions as a downside. Although theyre not good at masking their emotions, almost wearing their heart on their sleeve, always being and looking face-value at things. Theyre also more focused on being a "good child", an examplary and obidient one to their support system/parental figure. How exactly they do that depends on the player. They learn to be more trusting and kinda like punching bags to appeal to ohers, much like they would like to appeal to their support system. They can appear heroic or like fighting for a good cause but that is mostly just what they were thought to do and havent thought of an alternative. So theyre usually in a bad headspace when theres a massive discrepancy between their own/support system's view and other people's view on how things are ought to be "good". They can appear hypocritical because of this. - if i were to give prospitians an mbti and enneagram from the overall vibes id give them: ENFJ-ESFJ 1w9-9w1 SO/SP

Dersites dont necessarily accentuate either of those negative/positive emotions, they often hide everything deeply personal, not out of fear of being socially rejected like the prospitians, but out of fear of being evaded, having taken away some of their liberty. Dersites usually have it tough in the comic, and even if they dont, they make it like that themselves. So they learn that the best way to hide away from a bad outcome/bad parental figure is by simply creating a personal barrier between themselves and, initially, the parent and that later becomes a barrier between them and the outside world, kinda like a safe-space. They learn to be more skeptical, mischievous or untrusting because of said bad parent figure, trying to test their liberty's limits. They can appear chill or down-to-earth but that is only because of the emotional restraint. So they feel threatened when that barrier is broken or taken away from them, and they would do a lot to protect it. When they lack the safe-space they created themselves, their world view crumbles. But even if it did, from that much emotional-inhibition, they wouldn't know how to react to it. They can appear cold or fake because of this. - if i were to give dersites an mbti and enneagram from the overall vibes id give them: ISTP-INTP 5w4 SX/SP

All of this can also be easily observed from the player's moon's culture and purpose, how the planets were described within the comic. Tho with Sburb you never really know if its nurture or nature that caused someones lunar sway; Is Dave a dersite because he hid most of his emotions under his cool guy mask or is Dave wearing that mask because he was a dersite to begin with? Is Jane a prospitian because she was fixated on the idea of doing what is expected of her or is she reacting like that because she was a prospitian all along? It is also to be noted that with the kids at least, the dersites beds were always undone, while the prospitian kids beds were always done.

A "good kid" or someone with a bigger consciense makes their bed everyday, somone who has bigger issues would not necessarily concern themselves with that. Its the litte things that help to show the bigger picture.

Hussie said at some point that dersites dont do their bed after they wake up bcz of the nightmares from the horrorterrors, he also said that dersites are more likeley to be psychopaths, but what did hussie NOT say in those old forums, right? tbh this only helps my theory more.

i personally diagnose lunar sway by how trusting or oblivious someone can be, the most being prospit. derse can also be tusting but theres that sense of mischeviousness that rises from their skepticism to it. lunar sway, in my opinion, is also about your upbringing, some parenting styles are more likely to create a prospitian or dersite child, its mostly how the child responds to it.