I never fully Got hstwt. It always read to me as a bunch of reactionary people biting at each other for no reason other than to seem like the biggest person in the room, instead of like. I don't know. A gathering of people who like the same thing and talk about the same thing. It just feels like a cesspool. I never understood it. Im glad spaces like this can exist, fraf seems like a MUCH more chill fandom space than hstwt.