I don't think anyone is really suggesting that Makin is at "fault" for creating the discord or even maintaining the reddit - but i think especially with the way he's been trying to control the narrative and also what people see regarding gio's blog posts it's reasonable for people to be concerned about him having control over a lot of the social spaces. So it is a good thing that the forums exist! I feel like there are a decent amount of other Homestuck discords (though less... heavily advertised lol) but they might just not have The Most Members, which honestly to me is a plus. I cannot even imagine trying to have a discussion at the speed most of them must go, yikes. Would people prefer an ACTUAL 'Official' Homestuck Discord though? like the FRAF forums?

Also I don't think the thread has to be abandoned, but we can all ignore the trolls.