@rosebot yeah and im ngl i feel like there's been more of a push by certain people to make the FRAF forums seem like this divisive place where there's always arguing and fighting. I mean this thread was originally about how Makin was problematic and I didn't even know that it went that deep to the point of him just being transphobic or whatever, but the fact that he owns all those spaces to begin with just explains why they're so fucking awful to be in to begin with. It's at least made me thankful that I managed to find other spaces for myself after I left the reddit and that godawful discord.

If anything, I think maybe there should be a different reddit as well. I sometimes feel like the reddit is this hivemind where people downvote the most popular circlejerky opinion to the end of time, and the only reason it's changed for the better is because of the influx of new fans who like Hazbin making crossover art and actually talking about what parts of the comic they like.