In topic: "ironic detachment with homestuck enjoyment"

Saturday, August 23rd, 2025, 3:32 PM12 days ago

This is prolly going to be terribly written but whatever. I also want to bring up one particular imgur album I saw shared around reddit A LOT (that tbh made me laugh every time I reread it). It was a post detailing how the ending (and act 6 in general) was bad because it "broke storytelling rules". I think a lot of criticism of homestuck that comes from these sorts of fans falls under what I dub "fascist art critique", which might seem over the top but its more the underlying ideas behind a lot of critique I see for the late stages of homestuck. It is the idea that there are inherently "correct" and "wrong" ways to write stories, that everything needs to fit into little boxes and appeal to as many people as possible. If an art piece invokes emotions that aren't positive it is deemed as a failure, you see this a lot with the epilogues. For a lot of people it isn't enough to simply proclaim "I don't like this" they need to label it as morally wrong or objectively bad (or degenerate, go research the degenerate art exhibition). When homestuck calls into question the very story telling structures that are the norm, they see it as failure, a mistake that shpuldn't have been made instead of wondering if they should expand their definitions. I think it is very telling the reddit is one of the biggest pushers of this idea given how uhh, bigotted it can be, though as Jakemorph mentioned more progressive spaces also tend to fall into this line of thinking, just for different "moral" reasons. (I also think the fact I mainly see this sort of "cringe" treatment of a piece of media happening almost exclusively to queer media telling as well, steven universe being another fandom I used to be in that gets similar treatment) One of the most important things anyone can do is break free of these pretenses of how a story should be, or that a story can be an inherently bad thing. When you treat something as irreedamable media it becomes very easy to fall into these thinking patterns when you enjoy it where you need to justify yourself by putting down the art "objectively" or say you are engaging with it "ironically".

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