Tell me something that Vriska did "wrong" and I'll tell you why it was justified

If we're going to use pre-determination as a defense, technically nobody within the original webcomic has ever done anything wrong.

> If we're going to use pre-determination as a defense, technically nobody within the original webcomic has ever done anything wrong.

the reason the argument works with vriska creating bec noir and not with anyone else is because bec noirs existence was already known about, so if she didn't do it she would have likely just created a doomed timeline. he was already There at the victory platform antagonizing the trolls, his existence was a known variable. with anyone else, its more people doing actions and the universe retroactively validating them as the "correct" actions. like gamzee killing nepeta and equius was seemingly predestined, but he didn't know that, he just chose to do it anyway, and the universe validated his choice.

It's a general point but it was in response to killing Aradia specifically, which is an action that was (in part) goaded on by Scratch's meddling. The only difference between Doc convincing Vriska to kill Aradia and Doc engineering the rest of Troll society is that Doc had direct conversations with Vriska. The argument Doc Scratch made, and the reason Vriska ultimately does it, is that the action was pre-determined. Vriska isn't any more or less responsible for her inevitable actions just because Scratch told her about it in advance.

As for creating Bec Noir, Vriska knew Bec had to be created, but she didn't know she was the one who had to be responsible. She WANTED to be responsible, to make herself feel important, which is kind of the same logic Aranea used to justify her own meddling leading up to Game Over

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w/ Regards to killing Aradia, It would be one thing if he just told her "this is going to happen." and she did it. But that's not what happened. Scratch and Vriska didn't just have a normal conversation; she was literally a child at the lowest moment of her life being simultaneously tormented by spirits of the dead and manipulated by an omniscient and malevolent godlike entity with millions of years of experience and perfect insight into all of her thoughts.

She was never even considering murder until Scratch brought it up.

"Aren't you going to kill her?

AG: Who????????

Your friend.

The one who summoned the spirits.

AG: Will that make them go away?

Does it matter?

She brought them here to torment you. This obviously warrants revenge.

You know you're going to anyway. You won't be able to help yourself.

AG: I don't have to do shit!

AG: May8e I don't mind ghosts. May8e they'll 8e gr8 company once I get used to them!

No, they are terrifying you.

There's only one thing to do.

[...]

AG: 8ut I was never gonna kill these people. They were like, off limits I guess?

AG: These games were just supposed to 8e fun and serve no other purpose!" (pg. 2244)

And w/ regards to Bec Noir: So what? Literally so what? Like, her creating him had exactly 0 consequences compared to her not creating him. It's a net neutral action.

re:avarice okay but like. that scene is weird for??? many reasons???? vriska is still a teenager in this scene and gamzee is an adult. it is Weird that it happens and I do think this should, at the very least, not be added to vriska's laundry list of crimes (even as a joke).